LEGAL EXPERIENCE

Lectures To Professing Christians

Lecture VII. 1837

by the Rev. CHARLES G. FINNEY

Modernized by Cliff Collins

TEXT.  Romans Chapter 7

1.      Or do you not know, brethren (for I speak to those who know the law), that the law has dominion over a man as long as he lives?

2.      For the woman who has a husband is bound by the law to her husband as long as he lives. But if the husband dies, she is released from the law of her husband.

3.      So then if, while her husband lives, she marries another man, she will be called an adulteress; but if her husband dies, she is free from that law, so that she is no adulteress, though she has married another man. 

4.      Therefore, my brethren, you also have become dead to the law through the body of Christ, that you may be married to another, even to Him who was raised from the dead, that we should bear fruit to God. 

5.      For when we were in the flesh, the passions of sins which were aroused by the law were at work in our members to bear fruit to death. 

6.      But now we have been delivered from the law, having died to what we were held by, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter.

7.      What shall we say then? Is the law sin? Certainly not! On the contrary, I would not have known sin except through the law. For I would not have known covetousness unless the law had said, “You shall not covet.”

8.      But sin, taking opportunity by the commandment, produced in me all manner of evil desire. For apart from the law sin was dead.

9.      I was alive once without the law, but when the commandment came, sin revived and I died.

10.  And the commandment, which was to bring life, I found to bring death.

11.  For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it killed me.

12.  Therefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy and just and good.

13.  Has then what is good become death to me? Certainly not! But sin, that it might appear sin, was producing death in me through what is good, so that sin through the commandment might become exceedingly sinful.

14.  For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am carnal, sold under sin.

15.  For what I am doing, I do not understand. For what I will to do, that I do not practice; but what I hate, that I do.

16.  If, then, I do what I will not to do, I agree with the law that it is good.

17.  But now, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me.

18.  For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh) nothing good dwells; for to will is present with me, but how to perform what is good I do not find.

19.  For the good that I will to do, I do not do; but the evil I will not to do, that I practice.

20.  Now if I do what I will not to do, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me.

21.  I find then a law, that evil is present with me, the one who wills to do good.

22.  For I delight in the law of God according to the inward man.

23.  But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.

24.  O wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death?

25.  I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, with the mind I myself serve the law of God, but with the flesh the law of sin.

Many times, I have had the opportunity to refer to this chapter, and have read some portions of it and made remarks.  But I have not been able to examine this chapter as fully as I wanted to, and therefore I thought I would make it the subject of a separate message.  In presenting my views, I will pursue the following order:

I. I will mention the different opinions that have prevailed in the church concerning this passage.

II. I will show the importance of understanding this portion of scripture correctly, or of knowing which of these prevailing opinions is the true one.

III. I will lay down several facts and principles that have a bearing on the interpretation of this passage.

IV. I will refer to some rules of interpretation that should always be observed in interpreting either the scriptures or any other writing or testimony.

V. Finally, I will give my own views of the real meaning of the passage, with reasons for those views.

I will confine myself chiefly to the last half of this chapter, since this is the disputed portion of that chapter.  You see from the way in which I presented my outline, that I plan to simplify the subject as much as possible, so it can be completed in a single lecture.  Otherwise, I could spend many nights showing the meaning of this chapter.

 

I. I will show what are the principal opinions that have prevailed concerning the application of this chapter.

1. One opinion that has extensively prevailed and still prevails is that the latter part of the chapter is a brief summary of the Christian experience.

Many believe it describes the situation and exercises of a Christian, and designed to demonstrate the Christian’s battle with indwelling sin.  However, please notice that this is a relatively modern opinion.  No writer is known to have held this view of the chapter for centuries after it was written.  According to Professor Stuart, who has examined this subject more thoroughly than any other man in this country, Augustine was the first writer that suggested this interpretation, and he used it in his controversy with Pelagius.

2. The only other interpretation given is that which prevailed in the first centuries and which is still generally adopted on the continent of Europe as well as by a considerable number of writers in England and in this country that this passage describes the experience of a sinner under conviction, who was acting under the motives of the law, and not yet brought into the experience of the gospel.  In this country, the most prevalent opinion is that the 7th chapter of Romans outlines the experience of a Christian.

 

II. I will show the importance of a right understanding of this passage.

A right understanding of this passage must be fundamental.  If this passage in fact describes a sinner under conviction, or a purely legal experience, and if a person, who believes that it is a Christian experience, finds his own experience corresponds with it, his mistake is a deadly one.  It must be a fatal error to think that his experience is the experience of a real Christian because it corresponds with the 7th chapter of Romans if Paul is, in fact, only giving the experience of a sinner under legal motives and considerations.

 

III. I will lay down some principles and facts that will be important when we examine this subject.

1. From the nature of our mind, we will usually act according to our preferences.

In other words, our will governs our conduct.  We never act against our will.  Our will governs the motion of our bodies.  Because we are voluntary beings, we cannot act contrary to our will.

2. Generally, people often desire what they do not choose.

People’s desires and their will are often opposed to each other.  People’s conduct is governed by their choice, not by their desires.  Their desires may be inconsistent with their choice.  You may desire to be somewhere else tonight, and yet you choose to remain here.  Perhaps you really want to be somewhere else, and yet you choose to remain in this meeting.  Let’s say that someone wants to go on a journey somewhere.  Perhaps he desires it strongly.  It may be very important to his business or his ambition.  But his family is sick, or some other reason requires him to stay at home, and so he chooses to stay home.  In every situation, your conduct follows your actual choice.

3. Regeneration, or conversion, is a change of choice.

Regeneration is a change in the supreme controlling choice of your mind.  The regenerated or converted person prefers God’s glory to everything else.  He chooses God’s glory as the supreme object of his affection.  This is a change of heart.  Before, he chose his own interest or happiness as his supreme goal in life.  Now he chooses God’s service in preference to his own interest.  When a person is truly born again, his choice is habitually right, and, as a result, his conduct is also right.

The force of temptation may produce an occasional wrong choice, or even a series of wrong choices, but his habitual course of action is right.  The will, or choice, of a converted person is habitually right, and, because of this, his conduct will also be habitually right.  If this is not true, then how does the converted person differ from the unconverted person?  If it is not the character of the converted person to habitually obey the commandments of God, then what is his character?  But, I presume what I have just said will not be disputed by anyone who believes in the doctrine of regeneration.

4. Moral agents are so constituted that they naturally and necessarily approve of what is right.

A moral agent is one who possesses an understanding, a will, and a conscience.  Conscience is the power of discerning the difference between what is right and what is wrong.  I don’t think anyone will argue that a moral agent can be led to see the difference between right and wrong, so that his moral nature approves of what is right.  Otherwise, a sinner could never be brought under conviction.  If a sinner has no moral nature to see and highly approve of the law of God and justify the penalty that is assessed to that law, he cannot be convicted.  For conviction is seeing the goodness of the law that one has broken and the justice of the penalty he has incurred.  But in fact, there is not one moral agent, in heaven, earth, or hell, that cannot be made to see that the law of God is right, and whose conscience does not approve of the law.

5. People may not only approve that the law is right, but they may often, when they view the law abstractly and without reference to its bearing on themselves, take real pleasure in thinking about it.

Here is one great source of self-deception.  People view the law of God in the abstract, and they love it.  When there is no selfish reason to oppose it, they take pleasure in looking at and admiring God’s law.  They abstractly approve of what is right and they condemn wickedness.  Everyone does this when there is no selfish reason not to.  Who ever found someone so wicked that he or she approved of evil in the abstract?  Can you find a moral being that approves of the character of the devil, or approves of other wicked men who have nothing to do with him?  How often do you even hear wicked men abhor and detest enormous wickedness in others?  If their passions are not enlisted in favor of error or of wrong, people always stand up for what is right.  And this simple constitutional approval of what is right may even be delightful when that right doesn’t interfere in any way with their own selfishness.

6. This constitutional approval of truth and the law of God, and the delight, which naturally arises from it, have no virtue.

It is only what belongs to our moral nature.  It comes naturally from the constitution of our mind.  Our mind is constitutionally capable of seeing the beauty of virtue.  Not only is this approval far from having any virtue in it, but it is also a clearer proof of the strength of our depravity, than when we know what is right and see how excellent the law is, but we do not obey it.  Unrepentant sinners do not have anything holy in them.  In fact, we see that their wickedness in sin is that much greater because their wickedness is proportional to the light that they enjoy.  And, when we find that people may not only see the excellence of the law of God, but they also even strongly approve of it and take delight in it, and yet they do not obey it, it shows how desperately wicked they are, and makes their sin appear even worse.

7. It is common for people to say, “I would do this or that, but I can’t”, when all they mean is that they desire to do this or that, but they don’t choose to do it.  And so they say, “I could not do it,” when they only mean that they were not willing to do it.  But they could do it if they choose to do it.

Not long ago, I asked a minister to preach for me on the following Sunday.  He answered, “I can’t”.  I found out later that he could if he really wanted to.  I asked a merchant to accept a certain price for something I was buying.  He said, “I can’t do it”.  What did he mean?  That he wasn’t physically able to accept such a price?  Not at all!  He could if he wanted to, but he did not choose to do it.  You will see the importance of these remarks when I come to read the chapter.

 

IV. Let me present several rules of interpretation that apply to the interpretation, not only of the Bible, but also of everything that has been written, and to all evidence whatever.

There are certain rules of evidence, which all men are required to apply in determining the meaning of the testimony of witnesses, and of everything written.

1. Always put that construction on language that is required by the nature of the subject.

We must understand a person’s language as it applies to the subject that he or she is talking about.  Much of today’s common language can be twisted into anything you want if you lose sight of the subject and take the liberty to interpret it without reference to what the author or speaker is talking about.  Interpreting separate scriptural passages and single expressions in violation of this principle has done a lot of damage.  It is mainly by overlooking this simple rule that the scriptures have been twisted into supporting innumerable errors and absurd contradictions.  This rule applies to all statements.  Courts of justice would never allow such perversions as have been committed on the Bible.

2. If a person’s language allows, we must explain it so that it makes him consistent with himself.

Unless you observe this rule, you can hardly talk five minutes with an individual on any subject and not make him contradict himself.  If you do not hold to this rule, how can one man ever communicate his ideas so that another man will understand him?  How can a witness ever make known the facts to the jury if his language is to be twisted at will, without the restraints of this rule?

3. In interpreting a person’s language, we must keep in view the point that he is talking about.

We must understand the scope of his argument, the object he has in view, and the point to which he is speaking.  Otherwise, we won’t understand what he is saying.  Suppose I picked up a book, any book.  If I don’t keep my eye on the object the writer had in view in writing it, and the point to which he is aiming, I can never understand that book.  It is easy to see how endless errors have grown out of a practice of interpreting the scriptures while disregarding the first principles of interpretation.

4. When you understand the point that the person is talking about, you understand that he is talking about that point; and don’t change what he says to make it mean something that is unconnected with his purpose, or inconsistent with it.

By losing sight of this rule, you can turn anything into nonsense.  You must always interpret what is said or written in the light of the subject that the writer or speaker is focusing on. 

 

V. Now that I have laid down these rules and principles, let me proceed in the light of them to give my own view of the meaning of this passage, with the reasons for this meaning.  But first, I have three remarks to make.

First remark.  Whether the apostle Paul was speaking about himself in this passage, or whether he is giving an example, is not material to the right interpretation of this passage.

Many believe that because Paul speaks in the first person, he is referring to himself.  But it is a common practice, when we are discussing general principles or arguing a point, to give an example in order to illustrate, or to establish a point.  And it is very natural to state this example in the first person without intending to be understood, and in fact without ever being understood, that you are saying that this was either an actual occurrence or an experience of our own.  Here, the apostle Paul was trying to establish a point, and he attempts to establish this point simply by way of illustration.  And here, it really doesn’t matter whether it is his own actual experience, or merely using an example to illustrate his point.

If Paul is speaking about himself, or if he is speaking about another person, or if he is using an example, he does it with the purpose of showing a general principle of conduct, and that all people under similar circumstances would do the same.  Whether he is speaking about a Christian, or about an unrepentant sinner, he lays down a general principle.

The apostle James, in the 3d chapter of his epistle, speaks in the first person when administering reproof.  “My brethren, let not many of you become teachers, knowing that we shall receive a stricter judgment.”  (James 3:1)

“With it we bless our God and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in the similitude of God.  (James 3:9)

The apostle Paul often says “I,” and uses the first person when discussing and illustrating general principles:  “All things are lawful for me, but all things are not helpful.  All things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.”  (I Cor 6:12)  And again, “Conscience, I say, not your own, but that of the other.  For why is my liberty judged by another man’s conscience?  But if I partake with thanks, why am I evil spoken of for the food over which I give thanks?”  (I Cor 10:29-30)  “For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face.  Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known.  And now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love.”  (I Cor 13:12-13)  So also, “For if I build again those things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor.”  (Gal 2:18)  In I Corinthians 4:6, Paul explains to us why he uses the first person in these illustrations, “Now these things, brethren, I have figuratively transferred to myself and Apollos for your sakes, that you may learn in us not to think beyond what is written, that none of you may be puffed up on behalf of one against the other.”

Second remark.  Much of the language that the apostle uses here can apply to the case of a backslider who has lost all but the form of religion.  The backslider has left his first love and has, in fact, fallen under the influence of legal motives of hope and fear, just like an impenitent sinner.  If there is such a character as a real backslider who has been a real convert, he is then motivated by the same motives as the sinner, and the same language may equally apply to both.  Therefore, the fact that some of the language before us can apply to a Christian who has become a backslider does not prove at all that the experience here described is the Christian experience, but only that a backslider and a sinner are in many respects alike.  I won’t hesitate to say that no one who was aware that he was motivated by love for God could ever have thought of applying this chapter to himself.  If any one is not exercising love for God, this describes his character; and whether he is backslider or sinner, it is basically the same thing.

Third remark.  Some of the expressions used here by Paul are supposed to describe the situation of a believer who is not a habitual backslider, but who is overcome by temptation and passion for a while, and speaks of himself as if he were all wrong.  The Bible says that a man is tempted when he is drawn away by his own lusts, and enticed.  (James 1:14)  And in that state, no doubt, he might find expressions here that would describe his own experience while under such influence.  But that proves nothing about the purpose of this passage, for while he is in this state, he is under a certain influence, and the impenitent sinner is always under the same influence.  The same language, therefore, may apply to both without being inconsistent.

Although some expressions may support this plausible construction, yet a view of the entire passage makes it clear that it cannot be describing our Christian experience.  Therefore, my own opinion is that Paul wanted to represent the experience of a strongly convicted and yet unconverted sinner.  The reasons are these:

1. Because Paul is clearly describing someone’s habitual character, who is completely under the dominion of the flesh.  He is really not describing one who, under the power of present temptation, is acting inconsistently with his general character.  But, Paul is describing one who uniformly falls into sin in spite of his approval of the law.

2. It would have been entirely irrelevant to Paul’s purpose to state the experience of a Christian as an illustration of his argument.  That was not what he needed.  Here, Paul is trying to refute the objection that the law is not good.  Paul was vindicating the law of God concerning its influence on a carnal mind.  In chapter 5, he states that justification is only by faith, and not by works of law.  In chapter 7, he maintains not only that justification is by faith, but also that sanctification is by faith.  “Or do you not know, brethren (for I speak to those who know the law), that the law has dominion over a man as long as he lives?  For the woman who has a husband is bound by the law to her husband as long as he lives.  But if the husband dies, she is released from the law of her husband.  So then if, while her husband lives, she marries another man, she will be called an adulteress; but if her husband dies, she is free from that law, so that she is no adulteress, though she has married another man.” (v. 1-3).  What is the use of all this?  Why, this, “Therefore, my brethren, you also have become dead to the law through the body of Christ, that you may be married to another, even to Him who was raised from the dead, that we should bear fruit to God.”  (v. 4) While you were under the law, you were required to obey the law, and hold to the terms of the law for justification.  But now being made free from the law as a rule of judgment, you are no longer influenced by legal considerations of hope and fear, for Christ to whom you are married, has set aside the penalty, that by faith you might be justified before God.

“For when we were in the flesh”, that is, when we were in an unconverted state, “For when we were in the flesh, the passions of sins which were aroused by the law were at work in our members to bear fruit to death.  But now we have been delivered from the law, having died to what we were held by, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter.”  (v. 5-6) Here Paul is describing the real condition of a Christian, that the Christian serves in newness of spirit and not in the oldness of the letter.  Paul had found that the fruit of the law only produced death, and through the gospel, he had been brought into true subjection to Christ.  What is the objection to this?  “What shall we say then?  Is the law sin?  Certainly not!  On the contrary, I would not have known sin except through the law.  For I would not have known covetousness unless the law had said, ‘You shall not covet.’  But sin, taking opportunity by the commandment, produced in me all manner of evil desire.  For apart from the law sin was dead.  I was alive once without the law, but when the commandment came, sin revived and I died.  And the commandment, which was to bring life, I found to bring death.”  (v. 7-10) The law was enacted so that people could live by it, if they would perfectly obey it; but when we were in the flesh, we found that the law led to death.  “For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it killed me.  Therefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy and just and good.”  (v. 11-12) Now Paul brings up the objection again.  How can the law, which is good, be made death unto you?  “Has then what is good become death to me?  Certainly not!  But sin, that it might appear sin, was producing death in me through what is good, so that sin through the commandment might become exceedingly sinful.”  (v.13) Here, Paul vindicates the law, by showing that it is not the fault of the law, but the fault of sin, and that this very result immediately shows the excellence of the law and the exceeding sinfulness of sin.  Sin must be a horrible thing if it can work such a perversion as to take the good law of God and make it the means of death.

“For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am carnal, sold under sin.”  (v. 14) Here is the hinge on which the whole debate turns.  Remember, that Paul is vindicating the law against the objection that if the law is the means of death to sinners, it cannot be good.  Against this objection, he goes on to show that all its action on the mind of the sinner proves that the law is good.  Keeping his eye on this point, he argues that the law is good, and that the evil comes from the motions of sin in our members.  Now he comes to that part which is supposed to describe the Christian experience, and which is the subject of our controversy.  Paul begins by saying, “the law is spiritual, but I am carnal”.  Paul uses this word carnal ten more times in the epistles, but he uses it once and only once in reference to Christians, and then it was in reference to people who were in a very low state in religion.  “For you are still carnal.  For where there are envy, strife, and divisions among you, are you not carnal and behaving like mere men?”  (I Cor 3:3)  These Christians had backslidden, and acted as if they were carnal, rather than converted people.  The term ‘carnal’ is generally used to signify the worst of sinners.  This is the meaning of the word ‘carnal’ that Paul uses here in verse 14 when He says, “carnal, sold under sin”.  Knowing this, could you say that Paul was carnal at the time he wrote this epistle?  Was that his own experience?  Was Paul sold under sin?  Was that true of the great apostle?  No!  Paul was vindicating the law, and he was using an illustration by supposing a case.  He goes on, “For what I am doing, I do not understand.  For what I will to do, that I do not practice; but what I hate, that I do.”  (v.15)

Here you see the application of the principles I have laid down.  The phrase ‘will to do’ in the New King James is rendered ‘would’ in the King James and the American Standard.  The Greek phrase, ((•D Ô 2X8T) means ‘for what I desire’.  So, in interpreting the word ‘would,’ we must not mistakenly think that this word refers to an act of our will, but only to a desire.  Otherwise, the apostle would contradict the fact, which everybody knows is true, that our will governs our conduct.  Professor Stuart has very properly rendered the word as ‘desire’; “what I desire, I do not, but what I disapprove of, that I do”.  Then comes the conclusion, “If, then, I do what I will not to do, I agree with the law that it is good”.  (v.16)  In other words, if I do what I disapprove of, if I disapprove of my own conduct, if I condemn myself, I thereby bear testimony that the law is good.  Now, keep your eye on the object that Paul has in view, and read the next verse, “But now, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me”.  (v.17)  Here Paul sounds like he is dividing himself against himself, or speaking about himself as possessing two natures, or, as some of the heathen philosophers taught, as having two souls, one which approves the good and another which loves and chooses evil.  “Or I know that in me (that is, in my flesh) nothing good dwells; for to will is present with me, but how to perform what is good I do not find.”  (v.18)  Here, the phrase ‘to will’ means to approve, for if men really will to do a thing, they do it.  Everybody knows this.  Whenever the language allows it, we must interpret the phrase “to will” to make it consistent with known facts.  If you take the phrase ‘to will’ literally, you involve the apostle in the absurdity of saying that he willed what he did not do, and so acted contrary to his own will, which contradicts a universal fact.  The meaning of the phrase “to will” must be ‘to desire’.  This is how it is rendered in the Greek (see ‘The Interlinear Bible’ – Hendrickson Publishers also Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance).  Then it coincides perfectly with the experience of every convicted sinner.  The sinner knows what he should do and he strongly approves of it, but he is not ready to do it.  Suppose I were to call on you to do something specific.  Suppose, for example, I were to call on those of you who are impenitent to come forward and sit in this pew over here so that we might see who you are, pray for you, and show you your sins and also show you that it is your duty to submit to God.  Some of you would exclaim, “I know it is my duty, and really want to do it, but I can’t”.  What do you mean by that?  Why, simply, that, generally, the balance of your will is on the other side.

In the 20th verse, Paul repeats what he had said before, “Now if I do what I will not to do, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me”.  Is that the habitual character and experience of a Christian?  I admit that a Christian may fall so low that this language may apply to him; but if this is his general character, how does it differ from that of an impenitent sinner?  If this is the habitual character of a Christian, there is not one word of truth in all those scriptures that represent the saints as those who really obey God; for here is one who is called a Christian of whom it is clearly said that he never obeys.

“I find then a law, that when I would do good, evil is present within me.”  (v. 21)  Here Paul speaks of the action of the carnal tendencies, as being so constant and so prevalent that he calls it a “law”.  “For I delight in the law of God according to the inward man.”  Here is the great stumbling block.  Can it be said of an impenitent sinner that he ‘delights’ in the law of God?  I answer, yes!  I know the expression is a strong one, but the apostle was using strong language all along, on both sides.  It is no stronger language than the prophet Isaiah uses in chapter 58.  Isaiah was describing as wicked and rebellious a generation as ever lived.  He says, “Cry aloud, spare not; lift up your voice like a trumpet; tell My people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins.”  (Isaiah 58:1)  Yet he goes on to say of these same people, “Yet they seek Me daily, and delight to know My ways, as a nation that did righteousness, and did not forsake the ordinance of their God.  They ask of Me the ordinances of justice; they take delight in approaching God.”  Here is an excellent example of impenitent sinners clearly delighting in approaching God.  The same is true in Ezekiel 33:32.  “Indeed you are to them as a very lovely song of one who has a pleasant voice and can play well on an instrument; for they hear your words, but they do not do them.”  The prophet had been saying how wicked they were.  “So they come to you as people do, they sit before you as My people, and they hear your words, but they do not do them; for with their mouth they show much love, but their hearts pursue their own gain.”  (v.31)  Here were impenitent sinners, and yet they loved to listen to the eloquent prophet.  How often do ungodly sinners delight in eloquent preaching or powerful reasoning by some able minister!  It is to them an intellectual feast.  And sometimes they are so pleased with it that they really think they love the word of God.  This is consistent with entire depravity of heart and enmity against the true character of God.  In fact, it sets their depravity in a stronger light, because they know and approve of what is right, and yet continue to do wrong.

So, in spite of this delight in the law, Paul says, but I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.  O wretched man that I am!  Who will deliver me from this body of death?”  Here the phrase, “I thank God, through Jesus Christ our Lord”, is simply an exclamation which breaks in on Paul’s train of thought.  Then he sums up the whole matter, “So then, with the mind I myself serve the law of God, but with the flesh the law of sin”.

It is as if he had said, “My better self, my unbiased judgment, my conscience, approves the law of God; but the law in my members, my passions, have such a control over me that I still disobey”.  Remember, Paul was describing the habitual character of one who was completely under the dominion of sin.  It was irrelevant to his purpose to use the experience of a Christian.  He was vindicating the law, and therefore it was necessary for him to take use the situation of one who was under the law as his example.  If Paul is referring to the Christian experience, he was reasoning against himself, for if that is the Christian experience, this would prove not only that the law is incapable of subduing our passions and sanctifying men, but that the gospel is also ineffective.  Christians are under grace, and so it is irrelevant when vindicating the law to use the experience of those who are not under the law, but under grace.

Another conclusive reason is, that in chapter 7, Paul actually states that the situation of a believer is entirely different.  In verses 4 and 6, he mentions those who are not under law and not in the flesh, that is, not carnal, but delivered from the law, and actually serving, or obeying God in spirit.

Then, in the beginning of the 8th chapter, he goes on to say, “There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.  For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death”.  (v. 1-2)  Paul had alluded to this in verse 25 above, “I thank God…”  “For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin: He condemned sin in the flesh, that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.”  (v. 3-4)  Who is this that he is now talking about?  If the person in the last chapter was one who was having a Christian experience, then whose experience is this?  Here is something completely different.  The person in Chapter 7 was totally under the power of sin, and under the law, and although he knew what his duty was, he never did it.  But in the 8th chapter, we find one for whom, what the law could not do through the power of passion, the gospel has done, so that the righteousness of the law is fulfilled, or what the law requires is obeyed.  “For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit.  For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.  Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be.  So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God.” (v. 5-8) There you have it.  Those whom he had described in the 7th chapter as being carnal, cannot please God. “But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you.  Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.  And if Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.”  (v. 9-10)  But here is an individual whose body is dead.  Before, the body had control, and dragged him away from his duty and from salvation; but now the power of passion is subdued.

Now let me summarize all of this:

(1.) The strength of Paul’s language cannot decide this question, for Paul uses strong language on both sides.  If someone objects, saying that the individual he is describing in chapter 7 is said to “delight in the law”; well, that same person is also said to be “carnal, sold under sin”.  When a writer uses strong language, you must understand it in such a way that you don’t make it irrelevant or inconsistent.

(2.) Whether Paul speaks about himself, or about some other person, or merely supposes a case by way of illustration, is wholly immaterial to the question.

(3.) It is clear that the point Paul wanted to illustrate was the vindication of the law of God, as to its influence on a carnal mind.

(4.) The point required by way of illustration is the situation of a convicted sinner who saw the excellence of the law, but in whom his passions had control.

(5.) If Paul is talking about Christian experience, what Paul says becomes not only irrelevant, but also proves the opposite of what he intended.  Paul intended to show that the law, though good, could not break the power of passion.  But if this is Christian experience, then it proves that the gospel, instead of the law, cannot subdue passion and sanctify men.

(6.) The contrast between the state described in the 7th chapter, and that described in the 8th chapter, proves that the experience in the 7th chapter is not the experience of a Christian.

 

REMARKS.

 

I. Those who find their own experience written in the 7th chapter of Romans rather than in the 8th chapter, are not converted people.  If that is their habitual character, they are not regenerated; they are under conviction, but they are not Christians.

II. You can see the great importance of using the law in dealing with sinners, to make them prize the gospel, to lead them to justify God and condemn themselves.  Sinners are never made to truly repent unless the law convicts them.

III. At the same time, you see that the law is unable to convert men.  The case of the devil illustrates the tremendous power of the law in this respect.

IV. You see the danger of mistaking simple desires for piety.  Desire that does not result in right choice has nothing good in it.  The devil may have such desires.  The wickedest people on earth may desire religion, and no doubt, they often do desire it, when they see that it is necessary for their salvation or to control their passions.

V. Christ and the gospel present the only motives that can sanctify the mind.  The law only convicts and condemns.

VI. Those who are truly converted and brought into the liberty of the gospel, find deliverance from the bondage of their own corruptions.

They find the power of the body over the mind broken.  They may have conflicts and trials, many and severe; but as a habitual thing, they are delivered from the realm of passion, get victory over sin, and find it easy to serve God.  His commandments are not harsh or cruel to them.  His yoke is easy, and His burden is light.

VII. The true convert also finds peace with God.  He feels that he has it.  He enjoys it.  He has a sense of pardoned sin, and a sense of victory over corruption.

VIII. You can see from this subject, the true position of a vast many church members.  They are struggling under the law all the time.  They approve of the law both in its precept and its penalty; they feel condemned, and desire relief.  Still, they are unhappy.  They have no spirit of prayer, no communion with God, no evidence of adoption.  They only refer to the 7th of Romans as their evidence.  Such a person will say, “That is my exact experience.”  Let me tell you, that if this is your experience, you are yet in the gall of bitterness and the bonds of iniquity.  You feel that you are in the bonds of guilt, and you are overcome by iniquity, and surely, you know that it is bitter as gall.  Now, don't cheat your soul by supposing that with such an experience as this, you can go and sit down by the side of the apostle Paul.  You are yet carnal, sold under sin, and unless you embrace the gospel, you will be damned.